Dear Editor:
Shame on the people of
Meerwala, Pakistan for meting out a barbaric punishment to an innocent
young woman whose brother had committed a crime. You people have the
unmitigated gall to disparage the US. We have our faults be we are a
civilized society with courts that act within reason. I was appalled
to learn that hundreds of people applauded as the young woman in
question was brutally violated. Is there any decency left in Pakistan?
The next time you judge
the US look at yourselves first. It’s bad enough that Pakistanis
mistreat animals. You mistreat women as well. I hope the courts,
judges, police and anyone else who participated in this brutal crime
rot in hell. If it were up to me, I’d hack off their penises with a
chainsaw and mash them through a meat grinder.
Debra J. White Tempe, AZ
USA
Theresa. Cameron@asu.edu
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Dear Editor:
I am shockingly surprised
but happy that Meerwala incident is being highlighted in a big way.
Too little too late but yet a good sign.
The truth is that Meerwala
incident is just a tip of the iceberg. Thousands of incidents of this
nature take place in Pakistani Muslim society every day. Unreported,
unheard of, untold and unprosecuted, nevertheless they constitute the
fundamental foundational roots and ingredients of Pakistani Muslim
society. This type of treatment is regularly meted out by Jageerdars,
Nawabs, Waderas, Zamindars and so many other names that feudal go with
to their fellow Muslim citizens of so called lower social strata. It
serves as a control mechanism with many socio-economic and cultural
implications. However masochistic, it has been there for centuries.
Pakistani Muslims are understanding, docile and very accepting of this
behavior by their fellow citizens of so called higher social strata.
The fact is that masses in the Pakistani Muslim society do not hold in
high esteem and respect those who are incapable of subjecting them to
such abhorrently oppressive behavior. Pakistani Muslims believe that
such behavior is the right of upper classes and the powerful in the
society and an essential trait of leadership that they can look up to
and hold in high respect.
To those Pakistani Muslims
who are critical of westerners taking up this issue and expressing
concern, I say shame on you and face the reality that this is a
chronic and widely practiced and acceptable evil for centuries in your
Muslim society. I bet and you watch that a man or two with their last
names as Mastoi will be one of the members of your National Assembly
or Provincial Assembly or perhaps senate come your October elections.
Our great western values
of a small common man or woman working his or her way up through hard
work, honesty, labor and rising up the ladder and earning respect
which has produced hundreds and thousands of men and women of stature
and leadership in so many walks of life in America are considered
demeaning, disrespectful, lowly and condescending by people from
Pakistani Muslim society.
Tom Rasheed. New York,
USA.
rihat1@hotmail.com
ameena@optonline.net
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Dear Editor:
No words are there to
describe or comment on this shameful incident. When will these
illiterate understand. When. Who will make them understand. I read the
comments of Debra j from AZ USA. Despite my best efforts I couldn't
disagree from her point of view. I will just make a change in
punishment she suggested. As they did with the girl, same should be
done with THEM. and that include the persons who performed the act and
those who ordered this act. Who the hell gave them this authority. I
think the corrupt judicial of our country. We all are very sinful. But
this act. They will go in hell, but don't forget to make hell for them
here too. Publish there pictures all around in area where they live or
their relatives etc. I want to write more but can't find words. Spit
on their all body in front of all not once but everyday of their
remainder life.
Dr. Anwer S , Australia
sunny6@mailcity.com
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I AM ISHFAQ HUSSAIN
CONDEMN VERY STRONGLY THIS .I CAN NOT DESCRIBE THESE FEELINGS IN
WORDS. WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY IS THIS ?
PLEASE LEARN TO RESPECT
YOUR SISTER, WIFE AND MOTHER. WE IN FOREIGN ALIEN LAND CAN PRAY FOR
THIS, I REQUEST TO CONCERN OFFICIAL PEOPLE TO GIVE HARDEST PUNISHMENT
FOR CRIMINALS AND PREVENT THE PUBLIC LIVES AND SOULS FROM CRIMINALS.
THANKS
ISHFAQ HUSSAIN
HONG KONG
hosaius@yahoo.com
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dear editor!
I am just astonish that in
a so called Muslim state those incident could happen. in 1947 migration our
enemy did it but this time our own people did it to us which is very strange. obviously the police which
represent government did nothing to stop it. in our country still
justice can be bought by money and influence but I request to out government
that to make sure that those animal get punished with out any further delay
and games. while this happening the
whole town was silent. what kind of men live in that town. what kind of
mentality that have. it just unacceptable in a civilized society thanks
shakil mustafa
Shakil.Mustafa@PenFed.org
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Assalam-O-Alaikum,
I heard this news on BBC
world news in Toronto .Next day all news papers were published on
front paged with this horrible news.
I am sure they will not
get punishment because our judicial system is so highly corrupt that
no one think about justice. Peoples are having long beared and sitting
on high chair in court are very corrupt. Our ex president character is
in front of everyone am referring Chief Justice incident Sajjad Ali
Shah).
Our Pakistanis are only
waiting for a big Azab from Allah(SWT) but in this process a lot of
innocent will also die.
Ya Allah Hum Ko Baighiarat
rehnomaoon say jan chura (Ameen)
Ashfaq Khan
ashkca01@yahoo.com
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Dear Razaq
Thanks for your comments.
We are senseless but still if our system is responding to such events,
and trying to punish the culprit, we have to defense our whole society
and countries culture. We should not allow others to blame whole
Muslim or Pakistani community. In this way there is a bad image of the
country spreads. No body speak about the Indians cruelty at Ahmadabad
India . If u have seen any picture of these cruelties you will feel
depressed on humanity of Indians Hindu. If u put any comments against
India on We you will see that how they reply you with in no time from
throughout the world. (We feel shame on such incidents in our society,
but we have to rectify these ourselves, and not going to allow others
to criticize our whole society).
regards
Shahid
shahid@sharjah.ac.ae
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john smith wrote:
dear shahidi read your
comments. I can not say anything but how shame proof we are !
sincerely
razzaq usa
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Dear Debra
I accept that in the
Pakistani society there are some problems. But you must not forget
that most of our people are illiterate. What do you think about your
own society where everybody is an educated nevertheless bad things
happen. The crime rate of America is the highest in the world. What do
you think about that honey! Your priests sexually abuse children.
Little girls are abused by their parents. If you people were
uneducated like us then you would be worst than animal.
A patriot Pakistani
danish111@hotmail.com
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Dear Editor:
It is a sheer lie that
this incident have shaken our souls. As expected the severity and
gravity of the shameful incident is fading away and same is true about
the zeal shown by our learned Chief Justice to exercise sue motto
jurisdiction. The real problem is the feudal mentality which is every
where regardless of the fact that one may not be feudal himself. The
newspaper which claims to have brought this incident to light,
following its own past tradition has published the so-called statement
recorded in its offices by one of the members of the Panchayat and
that negates the story that the paper had published. Interestingly,
that member of the panchayat has praised the newspaper for bringing
the truth to light. I wonder what that newspaper is up to. I am sure
that the poor girl SHALL not get any justice and such incident with
continue to re-occur as long we subscribe to the feudal mentality. I
do not see any sign of improvement. The kind of education we are
imparting in Pakistan is in fact perpetuating the status quo. A bloody
revolution is the only solution. We have been trying our level best to
postpone the chances of such a revolution but have not done any thing
so far to eliminate the possibility.
MN Butt, Reading, UK
mnbutt49@yahoo.co.uk
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It is very certain my
country will be bombarded by USA
people will say this is
natural calamity, jis ghur ki
gurya, bubli, manoo, baby,
saima, tayeba mahfooz na
hoon, wahan ki abadi ko
jila daina chehay. specially
jatois, bhuttoos soomroos,
tiwanas, mirs and jaily
pirs cheemas chathas
gondal warraich choudries ,
wattoos. these castes are
wadera and chaudris of the
villages, they eat haram
sitting in their haveli and
dairas, only their muzarey
work, this is really shame
for head of State
Governors, DIGS IGS and police
officers. SHAME ON ALL
VIEWERS OF THE MEERANWALA
VILLAGE. JIS MUASHREY MAIN
AURAT KI IZZAT NAHAIN, WOH
MUASHRA TUBAH O BURBAD HO
JAATA HAIY.
rosho22@yahoo.co.in
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AA,
I am angry, ashamed & I can not describe these
feelings in words. What kind of society is this ? Please learn to
respect your sisters, Wife and Mothers. We in foreign alien land can
pray for this. Thanks
Tahir
ZafarT@immunex.com
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Mere rooh kaanp utthi hae.
Only condemn? Will the
culprits be punished? How much time has passed but police and
authority hadn’t caught the criminals, they even can’t identify them
properly. Allah kae azab sae daro Punchait is like Head of the state;
Is their any such rule and punishment in our Islamic law or in a
Muslim nation and community or in any civilized country. The justice
providing Punchait is mentally sick and without Allah’s fear. I think
there is no need of night clubs or heera mundi in Pakistan anymore.
The biggest and deadliest crime happened in front of the people of the
locality and no one helped the innocent girl. A pre-planned crime. Are
the people living in Pakistan still Muzlims? The brutals need more
deadly punishment than “sungsar”. Who is going to punish them? They
are themselves authority and the punchait. All the girls and ladies
living in Pakistan should be mentally prepared that any time they can
not only be raped, but gang raped by the authorities unrespectable of
their age of The Islamic Republic of Pakistan. There used be no law
and justice in my country but now there are no more moral values left.
Every one get punished for his own act and Not for the action of their
relatives. Is a 12 year old boy mature enough to develop sexual,
illicit relationship. Does a child know its meaning?
What money paper notes
will do to that victim and her family.
My Dear Pakistan you are
in dare need of another “Muhammad Bin Qasim “ now.
Sonia ,Australia
Younas@optushome.com.au
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Dear Editor
The whole nation has been
humiliated with the brutal act of few bastereds. The only reason of
this incident is lack of justice and law enforcement. The best
punishment for all the criminals and Punchayat members is to hang them
in public as soon as possible. All the illicit Punchayat and Jurga
Systems running within the country should be abolished immediately to
stop similar incidents in future. I am sure there are many Mukhtar
Bibis,who commit suisides and burried unnoticed in the darkness.
Shabbir and Shaista,
Toronto, Canada
SHABBIRQ@aol.com
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The Meerwala "DOGS" should
be dragged in Public, have
their eyes gouged and stoned to death.
The Policemen who took bribes or watched the "show"
should be court marshalled in an anti-terrorism court.
And 1000's of pakistanis who watched their "sister in
Islam" being humiliated beyond limits should not
forget that they also have mothers and sisters, and by
not assisting the poor girl at her hour of need they
also have become part of the criminals (to a certain
extent) Even 20 or 30 Young men would have overpowered
the armed "DOGS"
Don't forget that we Pakistanis have nothing to boast.
Remember that now we are in the eyes of the world a
nation degraded, and maybe even worst in the eyes of
ALLAH.
The time to repent and change our ways have come,
better we change or face ALLAH's wrath.
Muhammad Salik
salik786@yahoo.com
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Sir, that is how I feel.
From what I gather, the Muslim world hates the US. There are
things I am not proud of in my country. Yes we have nightclubs
but not all women are whores. I am not. Yes, we have crime. Yes,
we make mistakes. But so does everyone else. I am tired of
Americans being the target of everyone's hatred. You judge us by the
actions of a few people. Sir, it is important for people of all
nations to live as brothers and sisters. Isnt peace a better
option than war? Is,nt love better than hate? Every night I pray
for peace. I feel so bad that people hate us yet no one sees the
good my people do. I love animals and that is where I do most of
my volunteer work. I visit a nursing home and a shelter for
homeless families with my dog and he brings cheer to lots of
sad, sorry faces. I am disabled but I still live a productive life.
Pray for peace my brother. And pray for this girl who was
terribly brutalized. She needs our prayers and our kindness.
DEbra J. White
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Hello miss Debra,
Just read your opinion
about that Pakistani girl. It’s certainly is very shameful but you
can’t blame whole community for that…you talk about civilized
society!!!!!!! Oh yeah tell me, how many teen age girls in North
America raped and sexually abused by their own parent (father)…what
you think about sexually abusing young kids by church fathers…so next
time look into yourself first before you blame to whole society…some
one took law in their hands and I am sure that justice will be done
and I think Pakistani authorities also need work not only towards the
betterment for Meerwala community but also for other our of reach
rural areas.
Take care
Shaz (Canada)
Shahzad.khan@edu.sait.ab.ca
shahzadmcp@hotmail.com
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Dear Miss Debra,
Thanks for your comments
and being a muslim and being Pakistani I believe 100% on same ideas
which each human being has in his mind for an ideal life. Believe me
98% people from each religion, country and of total human populations
are peace loving or want to live with peace. And its true that due to
few bad fishes whole pond become dirty. Same is the case for your and
mine country. If you look at little previous history, the best
humanity works are performed by America or Americans, but at the same
time worst human crimes are also performed by Americans (sorry but
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Vietnam, and recently in Afghanistan). Can u
imagine that how many Orphan kids are there, millions. Who don't know
that what is America, what is religions, but they had seen blood of
their mama, Baba and brother and sisters in front of them. Same if you
look at Palestinians their brothers, fathers and sisters captured by
Israelis and brutally killed or tortured. So all new breed who will
grow in this atmosphere, what you can expect from them. The only thing
is revenge. So why we insist that judgment is for all, not for some
people and some are completely excluded. And by the way America has a
major role for all these politics worldwide, some time it is positive
for one and negative for others, so if its balance believe me no body
hates US, or US citizens. ( for trade center still its not proved that
who did this brutal and inhuman act, but millions of people in
Afghanistan suffered due to this. While if USA settle the Palestinian
issue peace fully and let Palestinians to spend their life peacefully
and also let Palestinians youth to get education and jobs believe me
no frustration and no suicide attacks will be there). Kindly don't
take it as just discussion we need to work for peace and all of us
must try to solve the root cause of frustration and unjustified
attitudes and help these people also to live a peace full life as per
their wish. I, by the depth of my heart appreciate your ideas and
thinking and believe that you will never allow your disability to
become a hazard for your good aims. My all best wishes are with you
and especially regards for the word of BROTHER. So being a sister keep
your heart open for any new and good ideas for peace and try to spread
it if it appeals your mind and matching with your good believes and
please never be prejudice. ( For this Pakistani girl, there are 37
NGO'S, A panel of 170Laweyrs, Women's Rights Commission, News papers
Association of Pakistan Overseas foundation of Pakistan, and lot of
other, institutions, organizations are standing with this girl for her
rights and as per Islam the punishment for these gang rape is a
penalty of death. More over Supreme court of Pakistan is now involved
in it and there is no way that these animals can escape from law.
President of Pakistan also took notice of this issue personally).
thanks
Shahid Zubair
shahid@sharjah.ac.ae
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Dear Miss Debra,
Thanks for your sympathy
with this Pakistani girl, its really a shameful incident and whole
Pakistani nation not only condemned it but also feel shame on such
crime. More over reference to your further comments I just want to
tell you that Pakistan don't has night clubs, prostitutes center and
call girls, which all are the part of descent society of West and
America. So please be realistic, don't be optimistic, each culture has
some good things and some bad things in it, you cant blame whole
society for this. By the way this is the most common crime among all
Western and Americans. So please next time don't pass any comments on
whole community.
regards
Shahid
shahid@sharjah.ac.ae
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Dear Shahid,
Well I don't know if I
should call you a dear or not. But I am going to call you a liar for sure. What
is that place AT THE BACK STREET OF LAHORE MOSQUE. THE HERA MANDI. Well may
be you think that is not prostitution or night clubs. you know what, the
only problem with You Pakistani is you guys will just answers something
without any knowledge or even admitting anything wrong with you guys. lord.
Sammy Imai
imai@netvigator.com
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This crime has already
happened; culprits will definitely get punished......but I am thinking
of so many of such type of misadventures which may be in the so called
legal jurisdiction of so many PUNCHAYATS of our country, which may
occur anytime. Can we do something to stop them: we will cry after the
incidents why not prior to some more innocents are ruined. Everyone to
send their suggestions to eradicate such systems totally for the
consideration of responsible to initiate ACTIONS.
Abdul Salam
Rawalpindi
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I am Naseer Ahmed condemn
Very strongly this and like this incidents. I live in Germany since 22
years. and have criticized western values. Now we have so much shame
and our heads are down to earth after this case. Our Germans friends
and people say us how have you a Islamic land rules where occur such
incidents. I n Germany many TVs and newspapers are writing about this
case. which is a negative influence on western peoples about Islam and
Islamic country.
I request to concern
official people to give hardest punishment for criminals. and prevent
the public lives and souls from Criminals.
Naseer from Germany
ahmed.nasser@t-online.de
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It is shameful deed and is
condemned in the strongest possible terms. The culprit should either
be shot dead or publicly hanged and the innocent victim girl should
pull the ropes.
m.muneer@ntlworld.com
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As a Pakistani, I condemn
the incident happened in Meerwala, Pakistan, as much as Debra J. White
Tempe from the US has done in her letter to Editor, Millat. No mercy
should be shown towards the perpetrators of this incident, and members
of Panchayyat who endorsed and supervised the rape of an innocent
girl. They should be hanged publicly to set an example to others. I’m
sure most of the Pakistanis feel the same way.
Credit goes to the
Pakistani media that brought this incident to the notice of public and
government. However, I’d very respectfully like to clear some
misconceptions of Debra J. White. Pakistan Supreme Court has already
taken notice of this incident. The police and government machinery is
in action to nab the perpetrators. Whereas the legal process is
underway, Pakistanis, at home as well as abroad, are waiting for the
perpetrators to be punished. Our public Welfare Minister, a woman, has
already visited the victimized family and assured that the Pakistani
public and government stands with them and also presented 9,000 US
dollars to the family as a small gesture of sympathy and consolation..
To respond to the judgment
of Debra about Pakistanis, as tormentors to their women, I’d like to
say that Debra has looked only one side of the picture. Scattered
incident happen all over the world, even in the US. So much so that in
India, women used to be burned alive after the death of their husbands
in the name of Sati, and in some remote areas people still try to
revive this ritual. It is only Islam, which brought respect to women.
May I respectfully ask Debra to read the history of Islam. How the
women were treated in the pre-Islamic days, and who shunned all those
practices? It was Prophet Mohammad and Islam who stopped maltreatment
to women. In his last sermon in Mecca, the Holy Prophet, while
concluding his Message, particularly mentioned about women. He said:
“Treat your women with respect”. He himself set the examples. Now
if someone does not comply with the true teachings of the Prophet and
Islam, it is not the fault of Islam but of the person who goes wrong
because of his background, and social brought-up.
We do have women as
Ministers, parliamentarians and they are equally active in public and
social life. We maltreat neither women nor animals. If some incidents
happen and people like Debra care to look at the bad incidents only
then blaming the entire people is not fair.
You blame us for
terrorism. Look at how much we have cooperated with you, and continue
doing so. In return what have we received? And you ask us – not to
judge US. We respect the US as the superpower, with all its
technological advancement. We have no hesitation to learn from you and
work with you.. But, please go to the root causes to understand us,
not look at the cosmetics. It is ignorance and lack of education that
has plagued our rural areas. Supplying weapons and crushing the poor
people is not the answer, but to understand their problems and helping
them out by the wealthy countries is the solution.
Iftikhar Ahmed
ahmeds1948@yahoo.com
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Assalam-o-alaikum,
Dear
sir, could u kindly inform me how I can help that poor family. my
e-mail is
afzaalkhan@hotmail.com
may
ALLAH forgive us all for such atrocity
w'salam
Afzaal
khanm@telusplanet.com
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Dear Editor,
It is time for people of
Pakistan to stand against this barbaric act. The people who are behind
this must be punished just like what they do in Saudi Arabia hang
them. Otherwise people of Pakistan will not have trust or faith in the
system of justice. Mr. president (Mushruff)
are you sleeping, this is a wake call for you.
Anjum Zia Toronto - Canada
mr_anjum_zia@excite.com
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Dear Editor:
When I heard and read
about the rape case it was almost unbelievable, but it happened! There
is a famous quote; I don't remember the author: "successful nations
have more then one qualities and the nations at fall are corrupted
more then one ways. Hopefully, it will get better for the people of
Pakistan one day or may be people of Pakistan get better one day.
Nasir
Khanbhi@aol.com
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I fully condemn this
incident in which a heinous crime-gang rape of a woman was done. It
was an evil act performed by heartless beasts , totally against Islam
but firstly against humanity. I wish the harshest punishment for the
ones involved.
Jahangir Tauqir
Tauqir.Jahangir@ic.gc.ca
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The culprits of meerwala
deserve to be crucified publicly.
Until & unless there is
effective rule of law , such kind of nauseating and disgusting
occurrences will continue to be repeated. It is not the first and God
forbid, may not be the last, if the real culprits along with all
accomplices are not made horrible example. The onlookers as well as
all the personnel of the law enforcing agencies should also be not
spared.
aftab alam khankhel
aaa_hcpk@hotmail.com
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I think those involved in
this incident should be killed on spot within one week. Also all
punchayat members should be treated in the same manner.
Syed Faisal Ahmed Bukhari
Manchester UK
sfaisal_bukhari@yahoo.com
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Dear
Editor,
I was surprised to read
such a hateful letter posted on the homepage of the Millat website. I
am born and raised in the US, but I am not afraid to say that it is
exactly that type of ethnocentrism that breeds unfair US policies and
lets oppressive regimes thrive. And it is exactly that type of racism
that plagues our court systems.
Perhaps the writer should
get her facts straight. The panchayat, or tribal court, in no way
represents the state government, police, or the Pakistani people. Infect, according to The New York Times, the authorities have already
arrested six people, including members of the panchayat.
To say those men should
have their penises cut off and mashed through a meat grinder solves
nothing. Meerwala indicates the need for development and education in
Pakistan's rural areas. Concrete solutions rather that just words
would prevent a similar incident from recurring.
Ameera K. Ahmed Milwaukee,
WI USA
E-mail: ameera@uwm.edu
